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Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

I am suggesting for an addition to the PvP aspect of the game. PvP is stall, boring, and too easy in its current form. Something is wrong when I go in HA with a team with no runes, no insignias, no weapon mods, and only 4 skills each and hold for hours. Something is wrong when I can do the same in GvG and get ranked in the 50s-100s.I know of numerous high ranking PvPers such as myself, that are looking for a challenge. PvP Hardmode needs to be introduced. HM in PvP? Yes, HM for PvP could increase damage taken, reduce damage done, reduce armor, reduce the number of skills (4 maybe?), increase skill re-charge.

arsie · Jan 17, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Like how? Importing better players from other games?

Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by arsie

Like how? Importing better players from other games?

What? I'm confused...

Cargan · Jan 17, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

eh... just do it without any armour or skills. Or maybe take some time to teach people how to play so they give you a better challenge.

HM PvP? that really doesn't make sense since the difficulty is all dependent on other humans.

End · Jan 17, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Your concept makes little to no sense imho

Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 02:04 AM // 02:04

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Originally Posted by Cargan

eh... just do it without any armour or skills. Or maybe take some time to teach people how to play so they give you a better challenge.

HM PvP? that really doesn't make sense since the difficulty is all dependent on other humans.

I tried GvG and HA with no armors but didn't work out to well, best my team has done is playing with only the chest pieces - nothing else and holding halls 10 times good fun. Anywho

Yes, it is dependent on humans but you could stack the favor towards one side. Example - PvP Easy Mode - Stays the same as things currently are. PvP Hard Mode already listed.

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Originally Posted by the end is near

Your concept makes little to no sense imho

Add 2 modes to PvP

HM - Reduces Health/Energy, Increases Recharge Time, Lowers Armor, No Runes Allowed, No Insignias Allowed

Easy Mode - Everything stays the same.

What doesn't make sense?

MithranArkanere · Jan 17, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Hm... and how do you plan to do it?

Increase level, armor, action speeds for NPCs?
Allow only players with full equipment (forbid entrance to players with non-perfect armor, weapons or with empty upgrade slots)?

Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Hm... and how do you plan to do it?

Increase level, armor, action speeds for NPCs?
Allow only players with full equipment (forbid entrance to players with non-perfect armor, weapons or with empty upgrade slots)?

Just add an effect called Hard Mode that would reduce health/armor/energy, increase recharge time, disable runes, disable insiginias.. Would be pretty easy to implement.

MithranArkanere · Jan 17, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Oh... that would NOT be a Hard Mode effect.

It would be a 'You are as good as your internet connectio is, get a seccond of lag and you are out' effect.

Currently the game is quite fast, considering the average Internet connection in most countries.

Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Oh... that would NOT be a Hard Mode effect.

It would be a 'You are as good as your internet connectio is, get a seccond of lag and you are out' effect.

Currently the game is quite fast, considering the average Internet connection in most countries.

What? How is that not hard mode... You have every setting harder...

Obviously playing on a crappy internet connection will make you lose no matter what we are discussing so that is not really an issue.

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 17, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

ummm lvl 32 guild lords plz

k thx bye

Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

ummm lvl 32 guild lords plz

k thx bye

Only level 32? Only the guild lord? I said a CHALLENGE.... All NPCS should be level 35 with the guild lord being level 40.

Tyla · Jan 17, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Add 2 modes to PvP

HM - Reduces Health/Energy, Increases Recharge Time, Lowers Armor, No Runes Allowed, No Insignias Allowed

Easy Mode - Everything stays the same.

What doesn't make sense?

WTF??
So, you will make everything prone to spikes?
More of a "3...2...1" race to me....

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 17, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Only level 32? Only the guild lord? I said a CHALLENGE.... All NPCS should be level 35 with the guild lord being level 40.

maybe you should just jump off a bridge and make life easier.... I mean HARDER for all of us.

Toxage · Jan 17, 2008, 02:51 AM // 02:51

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

WTF??
So, you will make everything prone to spikes?
More of a "3...2...1" race to me....

Because there is nothing to prevent spikes right?

Interupts?
Conditions? Blind? Daze? Cripple?
Prot Spirit?
Spirit Bond?
Infuse?

It's also called HM for a reason... It is meant to be a challenge not c+space.

Tyla · Jan 17, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Because there is nothing to prevent spikes right?

Interupts?
Conditions? Blind? Daze? Cripple?
Prot Spirit?
Spirit Bond?
Infuse?

A: spikes are usually in teams
B: read A
C: enchant removal right before spike, and usually DW delivers the killing blow.
D: spikes are usually put to recharge as soon as, and your forgetting AoE spikes, not to mention people are vunerable to the spike anyway so one single slip up messes up the preprot
E: just makes the infuser vunerable

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It's also called HM for a reason... It is meant to be a challenge not c+space.

You've never played a spike team have you? No, thought not.
Spike teams aren't c-space, your thinking of Zergway minus the spamminess.

HawkofStorms · Jan 17, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Oh... that would NOT be a Hard Mode effect.

It would be a 'You are as good as your internet connectio is, get a seccond of lag and you are out' effect.

Currently the game is quite fast, considering the average Internet connection in most countries.

Exactly.

This does... nothing. If you play in "HM PvP" or whatever so will everybody else. It won't make the game harder or better. It will just shift everything laterally. If EVERYBODY has the same debuffs/buffs done to them, then its no different then the norm.

Div · Jan 17, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

You guys fell for it. OP is clearly a troll. Hold for hours? Get in top 50 GvG? Pics or get ready for a ban.

Yichi · Jan 17, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

I call this thread complete BS

Duke.07 · Jan 17, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

No matter how you alter the gameplay, lower health, lower energy, increase damage and whatever, it will still depend on the skill of the players. A sucky player will still suck in HM PvP, and the "elites" will still have no challenge. All the sucky players will just shift over to HM, because no one will be left in NM, and you will be stuck in the same position.